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Mesaj Scris de sandokhan la data de Mier 01 Iul 2009, 18:15

Exceptionala cercetare efectuata de T.R. LeMaire ne aduce la cunostinta faptul ca fulgerul globular produs de Nikola Tesla (vezi mai jos) A FOST DIRECTIONAT sa explodeze exact acolo unde nu ar fi pus in pericol vieti omenesti:

T.R. LeMaire, a science writer, continues this thought, by suggesting "The Tunguska blast's timing seems too fortuitous for an accident" (LeMaire 1980). He claims that a five-hour delay would make the target of destruction St. Petersburg, adding that a tiny change of course in space would have devastated populated areas of China or India.

Can we assume that the 'pilot' chose a cloudless day with excellent visibility from aloft to assure a safe drop? American Military strategy called for identical weather conditions; for a perfect strike on Hiroshima's industrial heart, the Enola Gay's bombardier was forbidden to release through a cloud cover: he had to see the target below. To maximize blast destruction, minimize radiation perils: the bomb was set to explode at a high altitude rather than against the ground. Similarly, the Siberian missile detonated high in the air, reducing or even eliminating fallout hazard (LeMaire 1980).

LeMaire maintains the "accident-explanation is untenable" because "the flaming object was being expertly navigated" using Lake Baikal as a reference point. Indeed, Lake Baikal is an ideal aerial navigation reference point being 400 miles long and about 35 miles wide. LeMaire's description of the course of the Tunguska object lends credence to the thought of expert navigation:

The body approached from the south, but when about 140 miles from the explosion point, while over Kezhma, it abruptly changed course to the east. Two hundred and fifty miles later, while above Preobrazhenka, it reversed its heading toward the west. It exploded above the taiga at 60º55' N, 101º57' E (LeMaire 1980).

The inhabitants of Central Siberia saw the fall and explosion of the meteorite over an area with a radius of 600-1000 km.

Explozia a fost vazuta tocmai din orasul Irkutsk si de pe malul lacului Baikal:

http://static.icr.org/i/research/papers/sa/sa-r05a.jpg (harta)

Pe 2 Iulie, 1908, urmatoarea relatare a aparut in ziarul local din Irkutsk:

The first report of the explosion was in the Irkutsk paper dated July 2, 1908, published two days after the explosion:

...the peasants saw a body shining very brightly (too bright for the naked eye) with a bluish-white light.... The body was in the form of 'a pipe', i.e. cylindrical. The sky was cloudless, except that low down on the horizon, in the direction in which this glowing body was observed, a small dark cloud was noticed. It was hot and dry and when the shining body approached the ground (which was covered with forest at this point) it seemed to be pulverized, and in its place a loud crash, not like thunder, but as if from the fall of large stones or from gunfire was heard. All the buildings shook and at the same time a forked tongue of flames broke through the cloud.

All the inhabitants of the village ran out into the street in panic. The old women wept, everyone thought that the end of the world was approaching.

Distanta dintre Irkutsk si Tungusk este de 1000 km, curbura fiind de 19.5 km. Altitudinea la care se afla Irkutsk este de 455 metri; de la aceasta inaltime, am avea un obstacol vizual de 67.5 kilometri intre Irkutsk si altitudinea la care a avut loc explozia (7 kilometri, dupa cele mai bune calcule).

Nici un locuitor din Irkutsk nu ar fi avut cum sa vada traiectoria fulgerului globular, si cu atat mai putin explozia sa, dat fiind obstacolul vizual incredibil, de 67.5 km.

Nu ar fi avut cum sa fie cauzata de vreo cometa:

In 1983, astronomer Zdenek Sekanina published a paper criticizing the comet hypothesis. He pointed out that a body composed of cometary material, travelling through the atmosphere along such a shallow trajectory, ought to have disintegrated, whereas the Tunguska body apparently remained intact into the lower atmosphere.

During the 1990s, Italian researchers extracted resin from the core of the trees in the area of impact, to examine trapped particles that were present during the 1908 event. They found high levels material commonly found in rocky asteroids and rarely found in comets.

Si cu atat mai putin vreun asteroid/meteorit:

The chief difficulty in the asteroid hypothesis is that a stony object should have produced a large crater where it struck the ground, but no such crater has been found.

Fesenkov (1962) claims, "According to all evidence, this meteorite moved around the Sun in a retrograde direction, which is impossible for typical meteorites...." Fesenkov notes that meteorites rarely hit the earth in the morning, because the morning side faces forward in the planet's orbit. Usually the meteorite overtakes the earth from behind, on the evening side.

Tunguska, 1908, Siberia, June 30, 7:20 am

The famous explosion, seen all the way to London, Antwerp, Stockholm and Irkutsk was caused by the ball lightning experiments of Nikola Tesla, see:

http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/starting%20pages.htm
http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/teslaweapons.htm

Here is what the particle accelerator (actually, vortex accelerator) laboratory looked like, built in 1899, by Nikola Tesla:

http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/fig6.gif
http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/fig10.jpg

Efectul exploziei a fost vazut imediat, instantaneu dupa toate relatarile, la Londra, Stockholm, Anvers:

In London on the night of June 30th the air-glow illuminates the northern quadrant of the heavens so brightly that the Times can be read at midnight. In Antwerp the glare of what looks like a huge bonfire rises twenty degrees above the northern horizon, and the sweep second hands of stopwatches are clearly visible at one a.m. In Stockholm, photographers find they can take pictures out of doors without need of cumbersome flash apparatus at any time of night from June 30th to July 3rd.

http://www.vurdalak.com/tunguska/tunguska_reconstructn.htm

Some people saw massive, silvery clouds and brilliant, colored sunsets on the horizon, whereas others witnessed luminescent skies at night—Londoners, for instance, could plainly read newsprint at midnight without artificial lights.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-tunguska-mystery-100-years-later

More newspaper accounts from London:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tunguska02.htm

http://www.nuforc.org/GNTungus.html

A woman north of London wrote the London Times that on midnight of July 1st the sky glowed so brightly it was possible to read large print inside her house. A meteorological observer in England recounted on the nights of June 30th and July 1st:
A strong orange yellow light became visible in the north and northeast... causing an undue prolongation of twilight lasting to daybreak on July 1st...There was a complete absence of scintillation or flickering, and no tendency for the formation of streamers, or a luminous arch, characteristic of auroral phenomena... Twilight on both of these night was prolonged to daybreak, and there was no real darkness.
The report that most closely ties these strange cosmic happenings with Tesla’s power transmission scheme is that while the sky was aglow with this eerie light it was possible to clearly see ships at sea for miles in the middle of the night.

“To the Editor of the Times.”
“Sir,--Struck with the unusual brightness of the heavens, the band of golfers staying here strolled towards the links at 11 o’clock last evening in order that they might obtain an uninterrupted view of the phenomenon. Looking northwards across the sea they found that the sky had the appearance of a dying sunset of exquisite beauty. This not only lasted but actually grew both in extent and intensity till 2:30 this morning, when driving clouds from the East obliterated the gorgeous colouring. I myself was aroused from sleep at 1:15, and so strong was the light at this hour that I could read a book by it in my chamber quite comfortably. At 1:45 the whole sky, N. and N.-E., was a delicate salmon pink, and the birds began their matutinal song. No doubt others will have noticed this phenomenon, but as Brancaster holds an almost unique position in facing north to the sea, we who are staying here had the best possible view of it.
Yours faithfully,
Holcombe Ingleby.
Dormy House Club, Brancaster, July 1” (1908 )

“TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES.”
“Sir,--I should be interested in hearing whether others of your readers observed the strange light in the sky which was seen here last night by my sister and myself. I do not know when it first appeared; we saw it between 12 o’clock (midnight) and 12:15 a.m. It was in the northeast and of a bright flame-colour like the light of sunrise or sunset. The sky, for some distance above the light, which appeared to be on the horizon, was blue as in the daytime, with bands of light cloud of a pinkish colour floating across it at intervals. Only the brightest stars could be seen in any part of the sky, though it was an almost cloudless night. It was possible to read large print indoors, and the hands of the clock in my room were quite distinct. An hour later, at about 1:30 a.m., the room was quite light, as if it had been day; the light in the sky was then more dispersed and was a fainter yellow. The whole effect was that of a night in Norway at about this time of year. I am in the habit of watching the sky, and have noticed the amount of light indoors at different hours of the night several times in the last fortnight. I have never at any time seen anything the least like this in England, and it would be interesting if any one would explain the cause of so unusual a sight.
Yours faithfully,
Katharine Stephen.
Godmanchester, Huntingdon, July 1.”

Curbura dintre Londra si Tungusk, locul exploziei, este de aproximativ 930 kilometri, iar obstacolul vizual de aproximativ 9000 km.

Pe un pamant de forma rotunda, aceasta explozie ar fi fost doar un fenomen local, observabil pe o suprafata de cateva mii de kilometri patrati, nicidecum si in nici un caz sa fie vazuta de la Irkutsk, sau observata de la Londra (oras aflat pe cealalta parte a unei emisfere nordice).

Aceasta este, poate, cea mai formidabila dovada in favoarea faptului ca intre Irkutsk si Tungusk, intre Londra si Tungusk nu exista curbura sau obstacol vizual, adica forma pamantului este plata.
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Mesaj Scris de sandokhan la data de Mier 01 Iul 2009, 18:46

Tesla Ball Lightning Research:

http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/files/balllite.txt

http://lightworkers.org/node/15377

http://www.stevenconnor.com/volts/

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_20.htm

Mai mult, fulgerul globular este una dintre cele mai senzationale dovezi ca pamantul este stationar, si nicidecum nu se roteste in jurul propriei sale axe sau in jurul Soarelui. Una dintre proprietatile cele mai neobisnuite ale fulgerului globular este faptul ca sfideaza orice fel de lege gravitationala (atractie sau presiune), astfel incat prezenta sa observata in mai multe zboruri comerciale ne arata ca, data fiind rotatia axiala de aprox. 900 km/ora (latitudinea observatiilor) si de 29 km/s (rotatia in jurul Soarelui), fulgerul ar fi disparut instantaneu de sub privirile pasagerilor (nefiind supus legii gravitatiei [atractie sau presiune]), insa a fost vazut minute in sir:

Ball lighting in a plane

Another account of strange goings-on aboard an airliner was issued by the TASS news agency. It described how a ball of fire, four inches across, appeared on the fuselage in front of the cockpit of an Ilyushin-18 aircraft as it flew close to a thunderstorm over the Black Sea on Jan. 15, 1984. According to the report:

It disappeared with a deafening noise, but re-emerged several seconds later in the passengers' lounge, after piercing in an uncanny way through the air-tight metal wall. The fireball slowly flew over the heads of the stunned passengers. In the tail section of the airliner it divided into two flowing crescents which then joined together again and left the plane almost noiselessly.

The radar and some other instruments aboard the Ilyushin were damaged and two holes were later found in the fuselage. The "deafening crash" and damage to the aircraft could have been caused by ordinary lightning but this certainly wouldn't account for the appearance of the glowing sphere inside.

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/B/ball_lightning.html

The existence of "ball lightening" has now been accepted but as yet eluded explanation, except that attempts have been made without the usual mathematical substantiation. The peculiar anti-gravitational effect, the inductive effects and the fantastic energy of ball lightning are well known properties.

Ce este fulgerul globular?

In order to better understand its principle it is necessary to grasp first what are the ether vortical object and ball lightning. Basically, they are the same. The only difference is that the ball lightning is a visible ether object. Visibility of ball lightning is provided by fluorescence of charged air particles.

Ball lightning floats near the ground, sometimes bounces off the ground or other objects, and does not obey the whims of wind or the laws of gravity.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060531-ball-lightning_2.html
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Fenomenul descarcarii electrice de mare intensitate (1 miliard de volti, 28000 de grade celsius), adica fulgerele, nu pot fi explicate de stiinta oficiala. Nu se poate gasi absolut deloc si nicidecum SURSA acestei sarcini electrice colosale; fabulatiile despre razele cosmice care ar cauza fenomenul, sunt doar atat, speculatii, pentru ca inca nu poate fi explicata sursa acestui potential energetic urias, si care se materializeaza aparent din nimic.

Asa cum vazut in mesajul precedent, fulgerul globular dovedeste ca pamantul nu se roteste in jurul propriei axe si nici in jurul vreunui Soare; prezenta acestui fenomen in avioane comerciale pe parcursul a mai multor minute (extrem de bine documentat inca din anul 1963, vezi zborul Eastern Airlines de la NY la Wash.) in care pur si simplu se sfideaza orice fel de lege gravitationala...

Acum, mergem mai departe; voi prezenta aici, pentru prima data la noi, fenomenele relationate sprites, elves, si blue jets, complet neexplicate de stiinta.

Sprite = descarcare electrica intre Domul Ceresc si norii cumulonimbus; sprites sunt insotite cateodata de Elves (o aura/radiatie luminoasa, care insoteste aceste descarcari electrice)

Blue Jet = fulgere care se deplaseaza de la nori la Domul Ceresc

Tungusk - 1908 - Tesla - New Findings TLEdiagram.jpg

Cea mai impresionanta colectie de fotografii ale sprites/blue jets/elves:

http://www.sky-fire.tv/index.cgi/spritegallery.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKL90WwmVjs (sprites on video)

Iata si articolul meu despre altimeter/radar altimeter readings scris pentru theflatearthsociety:

An altimeter actually includes an aneroid barometer which measures the atmospheric pressure. A radar altimeter uses radio signals. Both methods do not take into account the layers of aether which exist starting at about 12 km in altitude and going to about 15 km (right underneath the Heavenly Dome), and which influence both the pressure reading and also the distance actually travelled by the radar waves.

Nasa managed to keep the true facts away from public view regarding its missions: that is, the crafts ran into a belt of resistance much quicker and at a much lower altitude (12-13 km) than previously thought. For example, in 1958, the Explorer, after sending back some data, not only slowed down, but it went hay-wire as all the electrical circuits on board, including the transmitter and receiver, literally 'fried' out, burned up in the strong electro-magnetic currents of the radiation belt.

Back in 1871, G.B. Airy managed to actually prove the existence of the aether belts, see: http://theflatearthsociety.net/talk/viewtopic.php?p=34490#p34490

E. Hubble: ...redshifts are evidence either of an expanding universe or of some hitherto unknown principle of nature.

This hitherto unknown principle of nature is actually the aether belt which modifies both the atmospheric pressure at high altitude and the radar signals.

Amateur Rockets

Actually, the way this altitude is measured is the following: According to RRS member Bill Claybaugh (1996, alleged 50 mile altitude reached), "this altitude was estimated from a image of the entire Black Rock Desert taken near peak using known distances between geographic features".

How do other amateur rocket endeavours measure their claims?

Altitude verification for the rocket will be primarily based on signals from an onboard Trimble GPS receiver. Backup will come from accelerometer data, and then from the video camera, which is oriented so that the curvature of the Earth can be viewed, recorded, and later measured to estimate the altitude.

Satellite Hoax: http://theflatearthsociety.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=543
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Buna seara,
- domnule, doar varianta oficiala nu aminteste in nici un fel de un experiment uman, de un fulger globular, de ce ascund adevarul daca se stie? Sunt presupuse alte minunatii; o cometa care a cazut asupra zonei, meteoriti si chiar antimaterie… NU actiunea OMului
- un million de volti este posibil realizat tehnic si practic. Problema este ca intensitatea curentuli este foarte mica, care nu poate concura cu descarcarile electrice, naturale.
- nu inteleg ce este ,,Domul Ceresc’’ din ce este EL? Stelele se vad prin EL? Poate fi strabatut de sateliti, rachete care au fost lansate pentru studiul altor planete din sistemul solar? ...Chiar traim intr-o lume timpita?
- intradevar este o impresionata colectie de fotografii privind descarcarile electrice atmosferice, care sincer spun ca pot fi confunde cu jocuri de artificii…

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Mesaj Scris de nic la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 08:09

Revin…
-in poza cu fulgere care se deplaseaza de la nori la Domul Ceresc se vede clar Domul Ceresc se afla la aproximativ 100 km. fata de Pamant. Cine a calculat aceasta altitudine?
- pana unde se intinde atmosfera teresta sub Dom? Amintesc ce spun specialistii timpurilor noaste;
Troposferă cuprinsa intre 0-7 km. la tropice 17 km.
Stratosfera 17-50 km.
Mezosfera 50-80 km.
Termosfera 80 -640 km.
Exosfera pama la 1000 km.
Am gasit;
Strat De la ... ... până
Exosfera 640 km 9600 km
Ionosfera 80 km 640 km
Mezosfera 50 km 80 km
Stratosfera 16 km 50 km
Stratul de ozon 19 km 48 km
Troposfera 0 km 16 km

Sau;
http://www.scientia.ro/univers/40-terra/51-atmosfera-terestra.html

Oare oamenii care studiaza atmosfera teresta nu sau ,,lovit’’ de Domul Ceresc?
CINE GRESESTE?

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Mesaj Scris de sandokhan la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 10:48

Nu prea citesti ce se posteaza...am explicat la ce inaltime se afla Domul Ceresc, aproximativ 12-15 km deasupra noastra...nu ai citit ce am scris chiar in mesajul precedent de la 40 de ani de la... despre cum se estimeaza de fapt altitudinea...Domul este alcatuit (daca ai citit ce am scris pana acum) din aether...de aceea nici un fel de racheta (americana sau sovietica) nu a putut sa strapunga acest strat, vezi toata povestea pe Hubloul Fermecat...deci, iti poti raspunde si singur la toate intrebarile...
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Mesaj Scris de nic la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 12:49

Dar, poza ,,Blue Jet = fulgere care se deplaseaza de la nori la Domul Ceresc’’ arata clar ca prin grafic Domul Ceresc este la 100 km.!

@sandokhan a scris:Nu prea citesti ce se posteaza...am explicat la ce inaltime se afla Domul Ceresc, aproximativ 12-15 km deasupra noastra...
La 12-15 km. urca avioanele, nu mai inteleg nimic. Avionul Concorde urca pana la 18 km. Chiar nu este adevat? Nici unitatea de masura METRU, nu este metru?
PS Daca deranjez nu mai pun intrebari...

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Mesaj Scris de sandokhan la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 13:04

Exista fenomene atmosferice/aetherice si deasupra primului Dom...acel grafic a fost pus aici pentru a ilustra cum arata acele sprites/blue jets/elves; include altitudinile oficiale, pe care le stim deja...nu este un grafic alcatuit de mine...nimeni si nimic, nici macar nazistii cu UFO, nu pot ajunge nicaieri dincolo de aproximativ 13-14 km...citeste ce am postat despre misiunile falsificate sovietice, unde am listat numele astronautilor sovietici ucisi din cauza radiatiei (1957-1961), precum si efectele primelor misiuni Explorer (1958)...
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Mesaj Scris de nic la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 13:12

... da domnule, dar cum ramane cu avioanele care urca pana la 18.000 de metri, ele trec cele aproximativ 13-14 km.? Daca nu se poate trece cum este posibil ca un avion sa ajunga la 18 km.? Se minte? Daca DA, de ce?
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Mesaj Scris de sandokhan la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 13:16

Am explicat deja cum este estimata altitudinea, vezi mesajul meu (in limba engleza) despre altimeter/radar altimeter readings https://cercetare.forumgratuit.ro/teorii-ale-conspiraiei-mondiale-f19/tungusk-1908-tesla-new-findings-t87.htm#1169 si faptul ca nu se ia in calcul stratul de aether care exista, sau care incepe, la doar 13-15 km deasupra noastra, acest strat este un bufferzone intre atmosfera si Domul Ceresc...de aceea intervine si fenomenul redshift, catalogat de insusi E. Hubble ca: as having an unknown source...vezi ce am scris...experimentul clasic al lui G.B. Airy (1871, vezi descrierea completa facuta tot aici) a dovedit existenta acestui strat...
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Mesaj Scris de nic la data de Mier 16 Sept 2009, 18:10

Of... oftez...
@sandokhan a scris:Am explicat deja cum este estimata altitudinea, vezi mesajul meu (in limba engleza) despre altimeter/radar altimeter readings https://cercetare.forumgratuit.ro/teorii-ale-conspiraiei-mondiale-f19/tungusk-1908-tesla-new-findings-t87
Am tot cautat sa gasesc raspunsul, adresa are o alta tema, ce sa fac sa intuiesc?
Ce inseamna;
-bufferzone
-redshift
Nu am gasit cuvintele.
Hai sa vorbim pe acest forum in limba romana, nu pretind ca o stapanesc literar, o inleleg foarte bine.
sandokhan, nu crezi ca a da citate, adrese in alte limbi pe un site romanesc este o abatere de la subiect, o eschivare de a raspunde sau o tragere de timp pentru documentare? Ultima varianta o accept...
Cred ca raspunsurile sunt necesare clare, alte trimiteri sa fie suplimentare...
Mai discutam.

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Mesaj Scris de sandokhan la data de Joi 17 Sept 2009, 10:25

Atata timp cat nu cunosti limba engleza, ne pierzi timpul tuturor aici nic...asta e...exista dictionare online care iti explica ce inseamna acei termeni...daca ai fost pe faza, puteai sa-ti raspunzi singur la toate intrebarile propuse...
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Mesaj Scris de nic la data de Joi 17 Sept 2009, 12:47

@sandokhan a scris:puteai sa-ti raspunzi singur la toate intrebarile propuse...

Multumesc pentru indicatie.
...si totusi daca, puteam sa-mi raspund singur la toate intrebarile propuse... ce rost ar mai avea acest forum si altele?
... cuvintele; bufferzone, redshift nu sunt traduse de Google translate... dar ce importanta are!

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