52 de ani de cand pamantenii au pus piciorul pe Luna ?

scanteitudorel a scris:

virgil a scris:Au fost realizate materiale speciale care desi erau inrosite in foc, puteau fi tinute cu mana libera fara sa te friga. Astfel de materiale se folosesc si la izolarea modulelor care patrund in atmosfera terestra.

Din  cate  stiu   materialul  respectiv  a  fost  inventat  in  mod  special  pentru naveta  spatiala . Nu  cred  ca  a  fost  folosit  in  misiunea  Apolo.
Chiar  daca  acceleratia  gravitationala  a  Luni  este  mai  mica de  6  ori  decat  aceea  a  Pamantului ,  pentru lansarea  modulului  este  nevoie  de o  anumita  cantitate  de  energie.  Energia aerului  comprimat  nu  ar  fi  fost  suficienta .  O  parte  din  intrebarile  lui  Eugen  sunt  justificate.

Deceptie mare in lumea conspirationistilor...:  
"Alexey Leonov, the first man to walk in space talks to Russia Today about space, the Moon and hoax claims. Leonov was in training to be the first Russian on the Moon when the Soviet lunar programme was cancelled.

RT: The US is often accused of not actually going to the moon and faking the images from there. What’s your take on that?

AL: That is ignorance, total ignorance on the part of those who say so. These people don't know anything about technology. Or they just seek popularity. Only two countries did not monitor the orbiting of the moon and landing on it. It was during the Cold War. There were systems, monitoring planes as well as rockets. Our radars monitored everything. We did not have a mission control center. There was a space communication military base in Moscow. Americans announced the start of Saturn-5 with Frank Borman as the commander. We observed the start of the rocket, Americans were transmitting it to the whole world, and only two countries were not watching – the Soviet Union and China. Out of stupidity. We saw all four adjustments. Our systems saw how a huge meteor came from the south and landed.

One interesting fact: Frank Borman came here some time after the flight. Crowds surrounded his hotel every day. The government held a great reception for him, there was a press conference. Our people greeted Frank Borman just like they had greeted Gagarin. It was pure joy!

We could have orbited the Moon before Frank Borman. All the tests were going great. We were asking to go on L-6. “No, let's do more tests.” Korolev had died, and Vasily Mishin took over. He was an excellent engineer, but he didn't have Korolev's strong leadership skills.

Our engineers didn't like the risk. So they launched the sixth unmanned craft, which landed 600 meters away from the launch. Precision, all systems worked perfect, but it was unmanned. This was the most painful thing. We had all the chances to orbit the moon before Frank Borman did it. As far as landing goes… We were supposed to orbit the moon three times and then pick two crew members. Americans planned for two people to land, we planned one.

I was the lunar team commander and in charge of the group training. We had three crews on the team altogether. So, when the Americans announced their mission, we all gathered at this military base. We sat there, holding our fingers crossed. We wished all the luck to the guys. We personally knew them, and they knew us. Radars were monitoring the whole process. When the ship landed, their external cameras began to show the surroundings. We saw it all. Then the hatch opened, the next camera turned on (they really had thought it all through). Armstrong goes down the steps. The last step was about 50 cm above the Moon's surface. He was moving his foot carefully. We all froze, waiting to see what was going to happen next. He jumped off the step, then bounced and began to walk. He had an antenna that transmitted everything to the Earth; we saw everything that they did.

The question about the wind on the moon: There is a copy of that American flag in the museum. The flag was taken out of the case and unfolded. And this unfolding looked as though the flag was being moved by the wind.

The rumor started when Stanley Kubrik's wife commented on her husband's work. She said that it was very difficult to make the film about Americans landing on the moon. Well, it is understandable. There are two ships left on Earth. One is at the Smithsonian museum. It is not allowed to even take pictures there, because the displays there are extremely valuable. And the second ship, the exact copy, is in Hollywood. So he did some of the shots there, things like landing, opening of the hatch. Because otherwise viewers would not get the whole picture. So that's how the rumor about the landing on the moon footage being fake started. Two people even went to prison for bearing false witness.

When it got to our journalists, they began to spread all kinds of nonsense. There were two idiots showing pictures of the Earth taken from the moon. They said they were optics specialists, and apparently it was impossible to take such a detailed picture of the globe with all the continents and even rivers. The funny thing is we ourselves took this picture from our unmanned craft, using the camera made by one of Moscow's optical labs. We did this! How dare they say things like that! And we had two unmanned vehicles for nine months there. It is such ignorance to say that Americans were never there, but we controlled our vehicles from the Earth. It is simply impolite. But it is even more impolite that only two countries did not watch the mission – China and the Soviet Union, both Communist countries. It is just idiotic nonsense; they robbed their own people off this experience. It is like if we didn't show it, that means it never happened. Like a cat that sneaks in somewhere with closed eyes, thinking it is invisible. It was wrong for such a great country to do something like this."

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17650

si:
http://www.rt.com/news/i-armstrong-bouncing-moon/

MARE TRADATOR AL MATUSHKA RUSSIA , Leonov asta.....HUH!



I too agree that many of the most industrialized nations in the world should pull together and pool their collective resources for extended missions to places like Mars. We need, as a World united, to achieve such a goal and it is not that difficult of a goal to achieve. If we could just put political bickering aside for the sake of scientific advancement, we as a planet, could all reap the untold benefits of having actual people making such a trip. A mission to the Moon is a relatively short distance, astronomically speaking, yet the planet Mars is a 6 month journey one way. A great many things must be taken into consideration for such a trip and a collaboration of the World's top minds could make this a very real feasibility and actually help keep the overall costs to any one nation to a minimum. This is a chance to really unite the peoples of many nations under one banner and all could share in the lessons, information and insight learned from such an undertaking. We can only hope that the "leaders" of our Nations can put aside petty squabbles long enough to realize that there are so many things in this Universe that we still can learn from. Maybe, Just maybe....

Cele de mai sus, numai pentru oameni cu mintea deschisa ! Pentru ceilalti, incuiatii.... conspiratie Ruso-Americana!

virgil a scris:

 stii sigur ca motoarele functionau cu combustibil de racheta? poate erau jeturi de aer comprimat deoarece gravitatia este de sase ori mai mica decat pe Pamant.

virgil a scris:Fiecare miscare si fiecare pas facut pe Luna, au fost facute pe Pamant inainte de indeplinirea misiunii, tocmai pentru a evita orice neprevazut. Pana si ultimul pas al coborarii din modul a fost stabilit a fi cu piciorul drept, ca in caz de ceva instabil sa aiba mai mult control asupra miscarii. Evident ca toate aceste repetitii au fost filmate si studiate pe Pamant inaintea misiunii. Posibil ca unele imagini filmate pe Pamant sa fi fost postate pe undeva tocmai pentru a denigra misiunea. Dar dupa 40 de ani de la eveniment sa mai fie unii sceptici care sa creada intr-o conspiratie este absurd. La fel de absurd este, ca noi ceilalti sa incercam sa-i convingem ca este adevarat.

virgil a scris:

-Nu s-au folosit mijloace speciale de protectie a radiatiilor pentruca radiatiile ultraviolete nu penetreaza costumele sau peretii modulului. Alte radiatii cum ar fi cele radioactive nu au fost.

Razvan a scris:Eugen, doza de radiaţii la care sunt expuşi astronauţii nu este neapărat letală. 

gafiteanu a scris:Americanii au ajuns pe Luna inca inainte de 1969, foarte probabil prin 1950.
Si americanii si rusii si israelitii au trimis f.multi oameni pe Luna, dar nu prin metodele clasice, ci cu ozeneuri. In prezent exista multe baze militare pe Luna pe partea nevazuta noua.
Gurile sparte spun ca in trecut era sa izbucneasca un mare razboi pe Luna, dar s-au inteles in final.
Costumele in care supravietuiesc cand ies din ozeneuri sunt foarte speciale, exact ca invelisul antigravitational al ozeneurilor. Opresc orice radiatie.
Iarna nu-i ca vara si nici stiinta oficiala nu-i ca cea reala.

virgil a scris:Desigur motivatia acestui pas nu a fost numai a cunoasterii, cat mai degraba a suprematiei. Totusi acest vis a fost realizat si ramane ca un motor al dezvoltarii tehnice pe timp de pace.

Razvan a scris:Păi dacă o luăm aşa, o să iasă că românii au aselenizat prima dată! 

gafiteanu a scris:La ce au folosit acele alunizari si sutele de miliarde cheltuite, nici Dumnezeu nu stie.

Pacalici a scris:Pentru amatorii de can-can , iata un excelent link de unde a fost extrasa imagina de mai sus.

http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.co.nz/2011/06/exposing-apollo-moon-landing-fraud-was.html

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scanteitudorel a scris:
Eugen  a  gasit si  el anumite  lucruri  despre  care crede  ca   nu  sunt  in  concordanta  cu stiinta  si  tehnica .   Secretomania  exagerata  a  celor  de  la  NASA  pot genera   astfel  de situatii.